The conversation explored the dystopian themes of the book *Bandwidth*, focusing on technology’s impact on humanity, particularly AI, SMS communication, Narcissism, and airwater generation, while contrasting optimistic views held by tech entrepreneurs. The speaker discussed the human-nonhuman dichotomy in technology, the anxieties provoked by digital communication, and the challenges AI poses as a competitor for scarce resources like water and power. Additionally, the dialogue touched on architecture’s narcissistic tendencies, generational divides in technology use, and the evolving literary forms fitting modern fragmented realities.